Ramesh’s IIT remarks not based on facts: Sibal

It is incorrect to say that producing Nobel Prize winners is the ONLY benchmark for deciding World Class.

If the students of IIT B.Tech and IIM PGDM program are indeed world class then how many Noble prizes have they won till now? It is very easy to get a good corporate job for a non- IIT/IIM guy also, but to come up with Technological or Managment research is very very difficult.

i would also like to add one fact about the iits and iims in the submission of my block that reccently according to the report of former head of department of atomic energy shri kakodkar says that their could be no contribution of iits and iims in countrys economic developement.they are only became indias brand and on other report by two prominent professors of london school of economics says the contribution of iits and iims in research little a bit (published in the economics times). whats your comment?

This is not the first time this bloody Ramesh is making such a noise. He is just another saai taroor.

it is well known that the Under grads take off to US Of A from the IITs. The Post graduate courses who do research are invariably filled by students from other colleges from all over India after they write GATE. If IITs In deed have world class faculty and research matching world standards ,It clearly demonstrates that students from other colleges produce students of world caliber. So ,no improvement is needed in all other engg institutions as well. The Govt must stop this Ostrich tendency and face Reality and correct course. The ability of the IITs to find funding from Industry ( who are interested in practical returns ) and the number of patents could be a good indicator of how world class we are really

Time for somebody to tell Jairam Ramesh that Research is to see what everybody else has seen & to think what nobody else has thought. For everyInstitution with 3 letter or 4 letter, Research is an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got upset about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

“The atmosphere in which academic free exchange can take place are different from official statements made by a minister,” Khurshid had said. So this was an official statement of a minister? Which minister? What is official about it?

Evidences and not perceptions? "25 percent of the IIT faculties are IIT-products who have done their BTech, et al. Surely the 25 percent students who are world class students, must also be world class faculty.” Kapil's assumption: All world class students must also be world class faculty. - Fact or perception? The other 75% faculty are not alumnus of IIT. - Is Kapil insulting others? Kapil is a lawyer. His instincts for logic have got blunted by defending the government. Extending his logic, all people who say things that embarrass the government must be BJP, hence surely Jairam Ramesh must be a BJP! With due apologies to Jairam and BJP.

Both are not aware of facts. 1. Most of faculty of IIT are from Post-graduate from IIT and only a handful have graduated from IIT. Only graduates from IITs can be considered as World Class. Jairam Ramesh has a point here. 2. What is meant by world class is not made clear. Jairam Ramesh loses the point here.